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Why Didn’t God JUST Forgive Us?! part 2
In this Good News Audio WE HAVE LOTS OF FUN as Pastor T and a few audience members take part in an illustration designed to answer a crucial point about the nature of God’s forgiveness toward us! You may not be able to catch the illustration fully by just hearing the audio, and we’re sorry about that, but it sure was insightful and fun in person! HaHa! 🙂
Why Didn’t God JUST Forgive Us?!
Why Didn’t God Just Forgive Us? Part 1
The question arose from the congregation: “If God was going to forgive us, why didn’t He just forgive us?” Here is how we began and are learning to discuss all such questions as a local Church.
Men And Women
Recently I met with William Paul Young, author of The Shack, in Jackson, Mississippi, where he began to discuss the issues on this audio sermon. Needless to say, it was PROFOUND, and I was happy to discover a more in-depth sermon Paul gave on this subject at Emmanuel Enid in Oklahoma recently! This is, simply speaking, one of the most profound messages you have EVER and NEVER heard on the subject of men and women – GUARANTEED!!! Quite frankly, it rocked our congregation when I shared it with them and, in a Christ-centered, Trinitarian, Scriptural transformative way, our circuits popped (all good!) and we will never be able to think of relationships the same anymore! Enjoy and SHARE! 🙂
Proposal: An eschatology where God is more present than absent
When Jesus talks about “the Son of Man coming on the clouds” (Matt 16, 24, 26; Mark 13; Luke 17, 21), I believe he is using well-known metaphors to warn of a socio-political catastrophe that some of his first-century hearers would live to see. I also believe in the future event usually called “the Second Coming,” but I believe these texts (and others like them) are not talking about that.
This is not the most important doctrinal distinction in the world. The creeds, for example, don’t address it. But I am coming to believe it is a distinction that matters and is worth talking about. More on that in a bit. But first I want to give some background…
First, T.F. Torrance points out a problem in how we talk about the Coming of Christ:
It is important to recall that the apostolic witness to Christ did not speak of his advent (parousia)…in the plural, for strictly speaking there is only one saving parousia of the Son… The term parousia was used in the New Testament to speak of all three: the coming, arrival, and presence of Christ… His presence is an advent and his advent is a presence. “The hour comes and now is,” as Jesus once said [John 4:23]. The plural word, “advents” or parousiai, was not found in Christian literature for more than a century after the ascension of Christ… In one revealing statement, however, Justin Martyr spoke of what takes place in the midst of Christ’s parousia. In other words, here and now in the on-going life of the Church we live in the midst of the advent-presence of Christ, already partake of the great regeneration of the future, and share in its blessings with one another (Thomas F. Torrance, The Evangelical Theology of the Ancient Catholic Church. Edinburgh: 1988. pp. 299,300).
Our deistic culture believes in few things so profoundly as it believes in the absence of God. We Christians seem to believe that he was present once and will someday be present again, but for now we mostly go along with the broader culture in saying that God is certainly not here now. Except for being “present in the Spirit,” which we mostly use as a euphemism for “not really present.”
N.T. Wright explains:
When God renews the whole creation, as he has promised, bringing together heaven and earth, Jesus himself will be at the centre of it all, personally present to and with his people and ruling his world fully and finally at last… And since the ascension is often thought of in terms of Jesus ‘going away,’ this future final moment is often thought of in terms of his ‘coming back again,’ hence the shorthand ‘second coming.’ However, since the ascension in fact means that Jesus, though now invisible, is not far away but rather closely present with us, it isn’t surprising that some of the key New Testament passages speak not of his ‘return’ as though from a great distance, but of his ‘appearing’ (e.g. Colossians 3.4; 1 John 3.2)… For the early Christians, the really important event—the resurrection of Jesus—had already taken place, and his final ‘appearing’ would simply complete what had then been decisively begun (N.T. Wright, Revelation for Everyone. John Knox: 2011. pp. 224-25).
The Trinity and Humanity blog is part of a larger theological community that emphasizes the twin mysteries of Trinity & Incarnation, and the universal character of the Atonement which flows from them. This magnificent vision lives and breathes the good news of the Real Presence of the Triune God. As such, our theological project includes re-formulating doctrines which teach or imply God’s Absence. The popular eschatology of our day is one such doctrine that requires our attention.
Jesus and the New Testament writers have quite a lot to say about the impending destruction of Jerusalem “in this generation,” and the dark and difficult times leading up to it. And when we take those texts and impose them upon our doctrines about the future Glorious Appearing of Christ, it has consequences.
It produces a worldview of fatalism and pessimism, because it makes us think we know what the world will look like immediately before Christ appears, and it looks awful. When the beasts and tribulations of the first century get pasted onto our own future, it produces a vision of the world forever getting worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse until Jesus comes back and fixes it, and there’s nothing any of us can do about it in the meantime, so don’t even try making the world a better place, because we already know it won’t work.
Is this our vision of the world where the life of the Father, Son, and Spirit is earthing itself in human life in the world? Where Christ is already present and becoming more present all the time? Do we really want to be telling people to forget the prophetic visions of a world where swords get pounded into plowshares, where everyone has their own fig tree, where it will be considered unusual for someone’s lifespan to be less than 100 years, where water will flow in the wild places and flowers will bloom in the desert? Do we really want to be telling people to forget all that because those are visions of a world where God is present, and we don’t live in that world, at least not yet?
The Gospel is better than that.
What do you think? Have I gone off the deep end?
Are You Embracing The Obedience Of Jesus?
As we begin our Gospel “On The Fly” participation approach to weekly Worship services, it seems the Spirit met and led us to consider that maybe obedience is not so much something we give to God but something God the Father, Son and Spirit has given to us graciously in Jesus the God/Man! See what you think!
Church: God The Trinity’s Shared Ministry of Togetherness!
What if Church is as simple as a participation in, and present sign of, the shared relationship of the Father, Son and Spirit with all humanity? THAT is the question/response we are addressing at New Life Fellowship, in the Shared Love and Life of the Trinity! That can, then, also mean something creatively different about how we relate TOGETHER at our weekly fellowship. See and hear how we are being transformed by the Gospel at the local Church level! Our meeting together will be a bit different from now on as a result! 🙂
More than We can Ask or Imagine
My favorite concluding sentence for morning prayer has become the one based on Ephesians 3:20-21. It says:
Glory to God whose power, working in us, can do infinitely more than we can ask or imagine: Glory to him from generation to generation in the Church, and in Christ Jesus for ever and ever. Amen. (The Book of Common Prayer, pg. 102.)
When I first started using the daily offices some years ago, I shied away from this concluding sentence because of that phrase in the middle “more than we can ask or imagine.” When I read that part I sometimes thought, “Father, you often seem to do less than I can imagine, why should I believe that you can do more?” After all, we have all had many experiences with unanswered prayer or prayers that were answered with a firm “no”.
A few months back I began to meditate on those words and two thoughts occurred to me that transformed my perspective on this sentence and made it my favorite:
1. God can do infinitely more than I can ask. This was a simple matter of repentance for me. I had to admit that I had often wished, hoped, or schemed for things in life and neglected to simply ask. As St. James said, “you do not have because you do not ask.” In as much as I had not asked God for certain blessings in life, I had to admit that it is certainly true that God can do “infinitely more than we can ask.” Perhaps I had missed out on the Father’s work through Jesus because I had not asked the Spirit to open my eyes to see, believe, and participate.
2. There is a difference between imagination and fantasy. The sentence does not say that God can do “infinitely more than we can fantasize” it says that he can do more than we can “imagine.” To imagine, in this context, would be to visualize how Jesus is at work in my life within the reality of who I am and who he created me to be. Fantasy, in this context, would be to visualize Jesus making me into someone else and bringing to pass events that are outside the realm of the reality of who I am. I can imagine myself helping others through my writing – and the power of God working in me can do infinitely more in that regard than I can imagine. I can fantasize that I will be a pro-golfer and make millions – and in that regard God has no interest in making me into someone I am not. As St. James said, “you ask and do not receive because you ask wrongly, in order to spend what you get on your pleasures.”
This sentence is now my favorite way to conclude my morning prayer because it calls me to a way of prayer in which I ask within my imagination baptized in the Holy Spirit and it calls to me to trust that God can do infinitely more than I can imagine when I ask.
~ Jonathan Stepp
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